Comments on: Kindergarten teacher’s punishment upheld by judge http://www.tcoasttalk.com/2009/03/31/kindergarten-teachers-punishment-upheld-by-judge/ Martin and St. Lucie County News, Comments, Discussion Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:29:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Paeton http://www.tcoasttalk.com/2009/03/31/kindergarten-teachers-punishment-upheld-by-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-30001 Paeton Thu, 21 Jan 2010 01:43:45 +0000 http://www.tcoasttalk.com/?p=4428#comment-30001 I agree the voting thing was not appropriate punishment however what other options does a teacher have when students are rude, disruptive, and disobedient? Public education has been taken over by a group of sue happy people. Most of these people have never been in a classroom. Get a grip America! I had to stand in front of a chalkboard with my nose in a circle on the board. I was humiliated but I didn't disrupt class again for a long time. When I got home, I got spanked for it. Mom didn't run to school squalling humiliation. We have lawyers and judges making millions off the taxpayers so that parents like this can sue. This type of crap is ruining public education and sucking the life out of taxpayers. If you don't want your child disiplined, take them out of publicly paid for schools. I agree the voting thing was not appropriate punishment however what other options does a teacher have when students are rude, disruptive, and disobedient? Public education has been taken over by a group of sue happy people. Most of these people have never been in a classroom. Get a grip America! I had to stand in front of a chalkboard with my nose in a circle on the board. I was humiliated but I didn’t disrupt class again for a long time. When I got home, I got spanked for it. Mom didn’t run to school squalling humiliation.
We have lawyers and judges making millions off the taxpayers so that parents like this can sue. This type of crap is ruining public education and sucking the life out of taxpayers. If you don’t want your child disiplined, take them out of publicly paid for schools.

]]> By: Miss Cleo http://www.tcoasttalk.com/2009/03/31/kindergarten-teachers-punishment-upheld-by-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-2977 Miss Cleo Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:47:46 +0000 http://www.tcoasttalk.com/?p=4428#comment-2977 regina Says: April 1st, 2009 at 8:49 pm the teacher did what she thought was right at that time i dont think she wanted to hurt this child what about the mother she should have had that child in a differnt school for children that needs a lot of help and she should have seen that by then long before that happen that he is diffent and what about the other kids that can’t learn because of this child i think no one wins in this case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People who drive drunk think it is right at the time too, that is until someone dies. That is the point in punishment, so people learn from their mistakes. Just like when you spelled different, differnt you too thought you were right BUT you are wrong and now you know. And the mother could have been psychic? Who sends their kids to school anticipating that a teacher will abuse them? regina Says:
April 1st, 2009 at 8:49 pm
the teacher did what she thought was right at that time i dont think she wanted to hurt this child what about the mother she should have had that child in a differnt school for children that needs a lot of help and she should have seen that by then long before that happen that he is diffent and what about the other kids that can’t learn because of this child i think no one wins in this case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

People who drive drunk think it is right at the time too, that is until someone dies. That is the point in punishment, so people learn from their mistakes. Just like when you spelled different, differnt you too thought you were right BUT you are wrong and now you know.

And the mother could have been psychic? Who sends their kids to school anticipating that a teacher will abuse them?

]]> By: regina http://www.tcoasttalk.com/2009/03/31/kindergarten-teachers-punishment-upheld-by-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-2917 regina Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:49:22 +0000 http://www.tcoasttalk.com/?p=4428#comment-2917 the teacher did what she thought was right at that time i dont think she wanted to hurt this child what about the mother she should have had that child in a differnt school for children that needs a lot of help and she should have seen that by then long before that happen that he is diffent and what about the other kids that can't learn because of this child i think no one wins in this case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the teacher did what she thought was right at that time i dont think she wanted to hurt this child what about the mother she should have had that child in a differnt school for children that needs a lot of help and she should have seen that by then long before that happen that he is diffent and what about the other kids that can’t learn because of this child i think no one wins in this case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Gone........ http://www.tcoasttalk.com/2009/03/31/kindergarten-teachers-punishment-upheld-by-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-2910 Gone........ Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:05:08 +0000 http://www.tcoasttalk.com/?p=4428#comment-2910 I am sooooooooooooooo glad this so called teacher will not be allowed to teach um, i mean abuse little kids again! I am sooooooooooooooo glad this so called teacher will not be allowed to teach um, i mean abuse little kids again!

]]> By: I'm so glad http://www.tcoasttalk.com/2009/03/31/kindergarten-teachers-punishment-upheld-by-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-2904 I'm so glad Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:27:03 +0000 http://www.tcoasttalk.com/?p=4428#comment-2904 I am so glad that my daughter is 21 years old now and not in public school. I think that our school system is failing all of our children and many of the childrens parents don't have care. At first I was outraged at this incident too but as the mother continued to become another media storm like the Octomom I started to ask more questions. If you were a teacher in a classroom and did not know that this child had a disability but continued to cause a disturbance what would you do? Holding a classroom vote was the wrong way to approach the situation but what punishment is fair? loosing your job and retirement? loosing everything that you have worked for over one incident. I doubt that any of the people on this blog that are so hard on this woman would want to lose everything that they have earned over years of work due to one bad decision. I can only say that from what I see this woman has another agenda which most likely has $$$ attached. Hopefully the people that want the teacher fired will offer more of their taxes to help pay the law suit when it is filed against the school board. Open up and say litigation. I am so glad that my daughter is 21 years old now and not in public school. I think that our school system is failing all of our children and many of the childrens parents don’t have care. At first I was outraged at this incident too but as the mother continued to become another media storm like the Octomom I started to ask more questions.
If you were a teacher in a classroom and did not know that this child had a disability but continued to cause a disturbance what would you do? Holding a classroom vote was the wrong way to approach the situation but what punishment is fair? loosing your job and retirement? loosing everything that you have worked for over one incident. I doubt that any of the people on this blog that are so hard on this woman would want to lose everything that they have earned over years of work due to one bad decision. I can only say that from what I see this woman has another agenda which most likely has $$$ attached. Hopefully the people that want the teacher fired will offer more of their taxes to help pay the law suit when it is filed against the school board. Open up and say litigation.

]]> By: we need more http://www.tcoasttalk.com/2009/03/31/kindergarten-teachers-punishment-upheld-by-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-2903 we need more Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:49:34 +0000 http://www.tcoasttalk.com/?p=4428#comment-2903 The child was not yet "labeled" as autistic when this incident occured. The parent went out afterwards and had him tested. This teacher sent the child out for disruptive behavior at least twice during that day. He was sent back after a time period. The teacher clearly had difficulty teaching the other chidlren during the disruptions and therefore may have felt overwhelmed and unsupported. Although this incident was over the top and caused much controversary, what would you have done? The other children are expecting something to be done about the behavior. If the teacher ignored it, the other children would have copied it and became disruptive as well. It does sound like there was a communication gap. I am not sure whether the parent had been contacted for previous incidents but this day may have forced her hand to get the child assessed. Many parents do not want to hear about their child having special needs or behaviors in class that are not apropriate. This teacher had been teaching for 12 years. the parents did not express concerns and in fact supported her after the incident took place. As more and more children are placed in mainstream classrooms that have a cast array of special needs, teachers are not receiving the extra help, training or pay to deal with hard behaviors. We need to offer the support needed and if a teacher is struggling and sending a child to the office, they should take the time and energy to look into the occurances and offer further training, support and suggestions. The child was not yet “labeled” as autistic when this incident occured. The parent went out afterwards and had him tested. This teacher sent the child out for disruptive behavior at least twice during that day. He was sent back after a time period. The teacher clearly had difficulty teaching the other chidlren during the disruptions and therefore may have felt overwhelmed and unsupported. Although this incident was over the top and caused much controversary, what would you have done? The other children are expecting something to be done about the behavior. If the teacher ignored it, the other children would have copied it and became disruptive as well.
It does sound like there was a communication gap. I am not sure whether the parent had been contacted for previous incidents but this day may have forced her hand to get the child assessed. Many parents do not want to hear about their child having special needs or behaviors in class that are not apropriate. This teacher had been teaching for 12 years. the parents did not express concerns and in fact supported her after the incident took place.
As more and more children are placed in mainstream classrooms that have a cast array of special needs, teachers are not receiving the extra help, training or pay to deal with hard behaviors. We need to offer the support needed and if a teacher is struggling and sending a child to the office, they should take the time and energy to look into the occurances and offer further training, support and suggestions.

]]> By: teach http://www.tcoasttalk.com/2009/03/31/kindergarten-teachers-punishment-upheld-by-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-2900 teach Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:10:50 +0000 http://www.tcoasttalk.com/?p=4428#comment-2900 I am so happy my grandkids are in private school. As a former teacher I am disgusted with the public school system. The world is in a chaotic state now because parents have not learned to discipline their children, and the public school system has gone nuts on political correctiness. America hs lost its soul! I am so happy my grandkids are in private school. As a former teacher I am disgusted with the public school system. The world is in a chaotic state now because parents have not learned to discipline their children, and the public school system has gone nuts on political correctiness. America hs lost its soul!

]]> By: KF http://www.tcoasttalk.com/2009/03/31/kindergarten-teachers-punishment-upheld-by-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-2899 KF Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:10:06 +0000 http://www.tcoasttalk.com/?p=4428#comment-2899 sad Time: Yes you shall "reap what you sew". Just as she stood an autistic child in front of the class to be voted out, she was voted out. Fortunately it was the school board, who were actually capable of understanding what they were doing, that voted her out. Perhaps she received no backing because what she did was offensive to most rational people. There few absolutes in life but mistreatment of handicapped people is absolutely always wrong. She got what she deserved, public shaming and all. sad Time:
Yes you shall “reap what you sew”. Just as she stood an autistic child in front of the class to be voted out, she was voted out. Fortunately it was the school board, who were actually capable of understanding what they were doing, that voted her out. Perhaps she received no backing because what she did was offensive to most rational people. There few absolutes in life but mistreatment of handicapped people is absolutely always wrong. She got what she deserved, public shaming and all.

]]> By: teach http://www.tcoasttalk.com/2009/03/31/kindergarten-teachers-punishment-upheld-by-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-2898 teach Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:09:10 +0000 http://www.tcoasttalk.com/?p=4428#comment-2898 I am so happy my grandkids are in private school. Ad a former teacher I am disgusted with the public school system. The world is in a chaotic state now because parents have not learned to discipline their children, and the public school system has gone nuts of political correctiness. America hs lost its soul! I am so happy my grandkids are in private school. Ad a former teacher I am disgusted with the public school system. The world is in a chaotic state now because parents have not learned to discipline their children, and the public school system has gone nuts of political correctiness. America hs lost its soul!

]]> By: no clue http://www.tcoasttalk.com/2009/03/31/kindergarten-teachers-punishment-upheld-by-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-2895 no clue Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:23:19 +0000 http://www.tcoasttalk.com/?p=4428#comment-2895 I can't believe the ignorance of people posting comments here. This case is not about control in the classroom or kids that need discipline, it's about a teacher that has no clue what she is doing. She acted like an 11 year old kid who was throwing a fit instead of an adult and a teacher. You all need to get a grip. I can’t believe the ignorance of people posting comments here. This case is not about control in the classroom or kids that need discipline, it’s about a teacher that has no clue what she is doing. She acted like an 11 year old kid who was throwing a fit instead of an adult and a teacher. You all need to get a grip.

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